Money & Macro Talks
An academic economist interviews leading professors and policymakers on niche macroeconomic topics, from debt limits to labor market theory.
A long-form interview show where an academic economist challenges other experts on their core theories. Each episode is a deep dive into a specific, often counter-intuitive, economic concept, such as why governments can borrow more than they think or the physical limits of supply chains. The host acts as a knowledgeable peer, steel-manning orthodox viewpoints to rigorously test the guest's thesis.
“Unlike many economics podcasts, the host is a credentialed economist who engages with his academic peers, often challenging their premises using their own frameworks. The focus is less on news and more on the underlying models and historical precedents that shape economic events.”
Who hosts this show
Money & Macro Talks is hosted by Dr. Joeri Schasfoort, an economist who founded Money & Macro Media after a career as a lecturer and researcher. He received his PhD from the University of Groningen, where his dissertation focused on agent-based simulations of monetary policy and financial markets. Before starting the channel, he was a lecturer at the University of Groningen and also held a post-doctoral research position at the University of Cape Town. The channel aims to make complex economic topics accessible by interviewing leading academics and professionals.
Credentials & credits
- PhD in Economics, University of Groningen
- Founder, Money & Macro Media
- Former Lecturer, University of Groningen
- Former Post-Doctoral Research Fellow, University of Cape Town
- Dutch University Teacher Qualifications Degree
- Published in Journal of Economic Behavior & Organization
Other ventures
- The School of Money & Macro (online courses)
- Money & Macro Patreon Community
What kind of podcast
- Country
- BE
- Region
- europe
When new episodes drop
- 01How are Europe's economies holding up? Dr. Oscar Arce (ECB)Jun 24, 2026 · 42 min
- 02What´s next after the reopening of Hormuz? Prof. Steve KeenJun 17, 2026 · 30 min
- 03Are you being paid a fair wage? | Prof. Arin DubeJun 4, 2026 · 45 min
- 04Why governments can borrow more than they think. Prof. BezemerMay 28, 2026 · 40 min
- 05Are we already in a World War? Prof. Paul PoastMay 21, 2026 · 1h 00m
- 06Will Western governments soon hit their debt limits? Prof. John CochraneMay 14, 2026 · 51 min
- 07What happens when you tax the rich? Prof. Wojciech KopczukMay 7, 2026 · 1h 02m
- 08Why we are getting poorer | dr. Cahal Moran (Unlearning Economics)Apr 30, 2026 · 49 min
Notable episodes
- 01Why governments can borrow more than they think. Prof. Bezemer
A classic example of the show's format: the host (and former student of the guest) 'steel-mans' the orthodox view on debt against the guest's more heterodox thesis, using the Liz Truss crisis as a case study.
- 02How are Europe's economies holding up? Dr. Oscar Arce (ECB)
Features a high-level policymaker (Director General of Economics at the ECB) providing an inside look at how a major central bank analyzes inflation, competitiveness, and long-term demographic trends.
- 03Are you being paid a fair wage? | Prof. Arin Dube
A deep dive into a single economic concept (monopsony, or employer power) and its real-world implications for wages, using the guest's new book as a guide.
What you'll be asked on this show
The host begins by clearly stating the guest's core thesis, often a controversial or counter-intuitive economic idea from their recent book or paper. He then structures the interview as a rigorous test of that idea, using a variety of techniques to probe for weaknesses or nuance. A signature move is to "steel man" the opposing, orthodox economic viewpoint to see how the guest's theory holds up. He frequently applies the guest's framework to a recent, concrete event (like the Liz Truss mini-budget) to move from theory to practice. Rather than simply letting guests talk, he actively challenges them with market logic ("Why don't markets reflect this?") or by turning their own frameworks against them, creating a dynamic and intellectually honest debate.
The show is a one-on-one interview format, though the channel features several different interviewers including the founder, Joeri Schasfoort. The host typically frames the conversation around a guest's recent book or controversial thesis. He often plays devil's advocate or employs the "steel man" technique, arguing the opposing viewpoint to create a robust debate.
Questions the host keeps coming back to
12 cataloguedIf you're going on this show as a guest, expect some version of each of these. Each note explains when the host reaches for it.
origin
1- Q.01
“What is the core argument of your book/thesis?”
This is the standard opening question, used to establish the central idea that will be debated for the rest of the episode.
controversy
3- Q.01
“What is the limitation of the standard economic theory on this topic?”
The host often asks this to frame the guest's work as a direct challenge to an established, orthodox model.
- Q.02
“If your theory is correct, why don't financial markets already reflect this reality?”
This is a go-to challenge, playing devil's advocate by using efficient market logic as a counterpoint.
- Q.03
“Don't your own frameworks suggest we are hitting the limits now?”
A sophisticated move where the host uses the guest's own logic to challenge their conclusion.
process
2- Q.01
“How does your framework apply to a recent event like [the Liz Truss budget/the post-COVID economy]?”
He uses this question to ground the guest's abstract theory in a concrete, real-world case study.
- Q.02
“Can you walk me through the specific mechanism of how X leads to Y?”
Used to move beyond correlation and understand the causal process inside the 'black box' of a model.
history
1- Q.01
“What can we learn from a historical precedent like [the post-WWII era]?”
This question seeks to find historical parallels or divergences to better understand the present situation.
policy
1- Q.01
“How should we expect an institution like [the ECB] to respond to this scenario?”
Asks the guest to game out the reaction function of key economic players like central banks.
advice
1- Q.01
“Are metrics like [inflation and debt-to-GDP] still the main indicators we should watch?”
A practical question asked towards the end to give listeners concrete takeaways.
future
2- Q.01
“Could the impact be concentrated in one region, like Asia, while others are fine?”
This question probes the geographical or sectoral distribution of a predicted economic shock.
- Q.02
“How do long-term trends like demographics factor into your analysis?”
This question broadens the scope to include slow-moving, structural forces that might affect the guest's thesis.
mindset
1- Q.01
“Should governments still be afraid of the 'big bad bond markets'?”
He often returns to a central, thematic question to refocus the conversation on the main premise.
Signature segments
- · Modern Macro Talks
Topics covered repeatedly
Who gets booked here
Guests are almost exclusively high-level academic economists—often professors from institutions like the LSE, Columbia, and UMass—or senior policymakers, such as a Director General from the European Central Bank.
- Dr. Oscar Arceon How are Europe's economies holding up? Dr. Oscar Arce (ECB)
- Prof. Steve Keenon What´s next after the reopening of Hormuz? Prof. Steve Keen
- Prof. Arin Dubeon Are you being paid a fair wage? | Prof. Arin Dube
- Prof. Dirk Bezemeron Why governments can borrow more than they think. Prof. Bezemer
- Prof. Paul Poaston Are we already in a World War? Prof. Paul Poast
Where to find this show
Audience & reach
The show is listener-supported through Patreon and Ko-fi, which offer access to a private Discord community and other benefits. It does not appear to feature traditional pre-roll or mid-roll advertisements.
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People also ask
- Who is the host of Money & Macro Talks?
- The founder and primary host is Dr. Joeri Schasfoort, an economist with a PhD from the University of Groningen. The channel also features other interviewers.
- What is the format of the show?
- It is a long-form, one-on-one interview show where the host discusses a specific economic topic with a guest who is typically an academic expert or policymaker.
- Is this podcast still active?
- Yes, the channel publishes new interviews on a weekly or bi-weekly basis.
- How can I support the show?
- The show is listener-funded. You can support it via Patreon or Ko-fi, which are linked in the episode descriptions.
- Where can I listen to the podcast?
- The primary platform is YouTube, but episodes are also available on podcast platforms like Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
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- [02]Money & Macro Talks - YouTube Channelyoutube.com
- [03]Joeri Schasfoort - Google Scholarscholar.google.com
- [04]The School of Money & Macroschool.moneymacro.net
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- [06]Joeri Schasfoort - Institute for New Economic Thinkingineteconomics.org
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