Pound 4 Pound Podcast Clips
Hosted by Kamaru Usman
Two former UFC champions interview top fighters from MMA and boxing, breaking down careers and the business of combat sports from a peer's perspective.
An insider's talk show where two of MMA's most accomplished champions use their own fighting experience to dissect the fight game with current stars. The conversation moves between technical in-ring analysis, the business of matchmaking in boxing vs. the UFC, and legacy-defining debates. The hosts' shared background as elite wrestlers and champions creates a unique, peer-to-peer dynamic that differs from traditional sports media.
“The hosts are not just pundits but an Olympic gold medalist and a dominant former UFC champion who have lived the life. This allows for conversations with guests that journalists can't replicate, grounded in shared experiences of championship rounds, weight cuts, and contract negotiations.”
Who hosts this show
Co-hosted by former UFC Welterweight Champion Kamaru Usman and former two-division (Flyweight and Bantamweight) UFC Champion Henry Cejudo, Pound 4 Pound is a weekly combat sports podcast. The two decorated fighters interview elite athletes from the worlds of boxing and MMA, focusing on technical analysis, career strategy, and candid comparisons between the two sports. The show is a Shadow Lion Production, and this channel features clips from the full-length episodes.
Credentials & credits
- Kamaru Usman: Former UFC Welterweight Champion
- Kamaru Usman: The Ultimate Fighter 21 tournament winner
- Kamaru Usman: NCAA Division II National Wrestling Champion
- Henry Cejudo: Former UFC Flyweight Champion
- Henry Cejudo: Former UFC Bantamweight Champion
- Henry Cejudo: Olympic Gold Medalist, Freestyle Wrestling (2008)
Other ventures
- Shadow Lion (Production Company)
What kind of podcast
- Format
- Clips
- Country
- United States
- Region
- usa
When new episodes drop
- 01Khalil Rountree REVEALS What It’s Really Like to Fight Alex PereiraSep 30, 2025 · 11 min
- 02Terence Crawford Lists His Top 5 GOATs of BoxingSep 19, 2025 · 6 min
- 03Will Terence Crawford Ever Have an MMA Fight?Sep 18, 2025 · 4 min
- 04Terence Crawford REVEALS If He’ll Fight David BenavidezSep 17, 2025 · 8 min
- 05Canelo Alvarez on Terence Crawford Moving Up to Fight HimSep 11, 2025 · 4 min
- 06Terence Crawford BREAKS DOWN His Game Plan to Defeat Canelo AlvarezSep 9, 2025 · 4 min
- 07Terence Crawford DEBATES Boxing vs UFC Fighter Pay with Kamaru UsmanSep 9, 2025 · 6 min
- 08FACE TO FACE! Henry Cejudo & Aljamain Sterling on Their BEEFSep 3, 2025 · 15 min
Notable episodes
- 01Terence Crawford Lists His Top 5 GOATs of Boxing
In a viral clip, pound-for-pound king Terence Crawford names his all-time top five boxers and explains controversially why Manny Pacquiao is excluded.
- 02Khalil Rountree REVEALS What It’s Really Like to Fight Alex Pereira
A detailed, fighter-to-fighter breakdown where Rountree gives a unique perspective on Pereira's intelligence and ability to recover, calling him a 'real-life final boss'.
- 03Will Terence Crawford Ever Have an MMA Fight?
The hosts leverage their UFC credentials to discuss a hypothetical MMA debut for Crawford, comparing the business of boxing matchmaking to the UFC's structure.
What you'll be asked on this show
Usman and Cejudo operate as a tag team of interviewers, drawing on their elite MMA backgrounds. Usman often asks broader questions about a guest's career or mindset, while Cejudo frequently interjects with more pointed, sometimes confrontational follow-ups, especially on controversial topics or rankings. They build rapport by sharing their own experiences with fight negotiations and in-ring strategy, creating a unique peer-to-peer dynamic. Their questions often force guests to compare the business models and career paths of boxing versus MMA.
A two-host interview format where Kamaru Usman often poses broader, philosophical questions while Henry Cejudo is more direct, frequently challenging guests on controversial opinions. They regularly use their own careers to frame questions and compare the structures of boxing and MMA. The show is produced by Shadow Lion.
Questions Kamaru Usman keeps coming back to
11 cataloguedIf you're going on this show as a guest, expect some version of each of these. Each note explains when Kamaru Usman reaches for it.
legacy
2- Q.01
“Who are your top five greatest fighters of all time?”
A recurring opening move to gauge a guest's historical perspective and spark debate.
- Q.02
“How do you see the sport now compared to its golden age?”
Kamaru Usman tends to ask this broader question to explore a guest's views on the sport's evolution.
industry
1- Q.01
“What's your take on [a specific potential rival]?”
This question is used to get a guest's unvarnished opinion on a contemporary competitor.
process
2- Q.01
“If you could restart the fight from [a specific round], what would you do differently?”
Asked after a loss or tough fight to elicit strategic self-reflection from the guest.
- Q.02
“How long did you have to chase [an opponent] to finally make the fight happen?”
This is used to highlight the difficulties of matchmaking, particularly when comparing boxing to the UFC.
craft
2- Q.01
“Describe what it's like being in there with [opponent]; what makes them different?”
The hosts use this to get a first-hand account of an elite opponent's unique attributes.
- Q.02
“What is your current pound-for-pound list?”
Tied directly to the show's title, this question is a staple for ranking current top fighters.
future
2- Q.01
“How do you see a fight against a guy like [potential opponent] happening?”
A go-to question for exploring future matchups and stylistic clashes.
- Q.02
“With your [wrestling/striking] background, have you ever thought about doing MMA/boxing?”
Posed to single-sport athletes to explore their potential for crossing over into the other's discipline.
controversy
2- Q.01
“Why isn't [a famous fighter] on your top-five list?”
Henry Cejudo often asks this as a direct follow-up to challenge a guest's controversial omission.
- Q.02
“What are your thoughts on a crossover fight with [a star from another sport]?”
A way to generate discussion around high-profile, hypothetical matchups like McGregor vs. Crawford.
Signature segments
- · Pound 4 Pound Rankings
- · GOAT list debates
- · Boxing vs. UFC business model comparisons
Topics covered repeatedly
Who gets booked here
Active, elite-level boxers and MMA fighters, often current or former champions like Terence Crawford and Khalil Rountree Jr., who are willing to discuss their craft and the politics of their sport in detail.
- Khalil Rountree Jr.on Khalil Rountree REVEALS What It’s Really Like to Fight Alex Pereira
- Terence Crawfordon Terence Crawford Lists His Top 5 GOATs of Boxing
- Aljamain Sterlingon FACE TO FACE! Henry Cejudo & Aljamain Sterling on Their BEEF
Where to find this show
Audience & reach
The show is a Shadow Lion Production, a creative studio co-founded by Tom Brady. Direct sponsorships beyond this production partnership were not evident in the clips reviewed.
Subscriber and view counts are pulled live from YouTube and re-verified on a 30-day cycle. Listener estimates for the RSS feed aren't published here unless they're host-verified.
Pitch Kamaru Usman
No public contact email on file yet — try the social channels below, or claim this page if you’re the host.
Free: limited reveals · Pro: unlimited reveals + CSV export
You’re only charged when we return a verified hit.
People also ask
- Who are the hosts of Pound 4 Pound?
- The podcast is co-hosted by Kamaru Usman, a former UFC Welterweight Champion, and Henry Cejudo, a former two-division UFC Champion and Olympic gold medalist wrestler.
- Is this the full show?
- No, this YouTube channel posts clips. The description points to a main channel, 'Pound 4 Pound with Kamaru & Henry', for full episodes released every Thursday.
- What is the format of the show?
- It is an interview-based podcast where the two hosts talk to top fighters from boxing and MMA, as well as break down recent fights and news in combat sports.
- What makes this show different from other MMA podcasts?
- The hosts are both among the most decorated athletes in MMA history, allowing them to conduct interviews from a unique peer-to-peer perspective rather than as journalists.
- Where can I listen to the podcast?
- Full episodes are available on YouTube and all major audio podcast platforms.
Built from the show's public RSS feed, YouTube, the host's own websites, and the cited sources below. Computed and AI-extracted fields are labelled. Facts only — no private info, no fabrication, no transcripts republished.
Sources & how this page was built
This page is AI-assisted, grounded in the public sources cited below, and host-verifiable. We publish facts only; we do not republish transcripts. If anything here is wrong, the host can claim and correct the page above.Model: gemini-2.5-pro · high confidence
- [01]Pound 4 Pound with Kamaru Usman & Henry Cejudo - Apple Podcastspodcasts.apple.com
- [02]Kamaru Usman - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org
- [03]Henry Cejudo - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org
- [04]Henry Cejudo and Kamaru Usman Launch Pound 4 Pound Podcast - Sports Illustratedsi.com
- [05]Kamaru Usman - UFC.comufc.com
- [06]Henry Cejudo Biography - All American Speakersallamericanspeakers.com
- [07]Shadow Lion - Creative Studioshadowlion.com
Podcasts like Pound 4 Pound Podcast Clips
The Arena
The Arena
A daily sports debate show where 3-time NBA All-Star Gilbert Arenas and a panel of former pros give unfiltered takes on basketball news.
Sports Yaari
Sports Yaari
A high-cadence Indian sports media channel delivering daily news, reactive analysis, and passionate opinions primarily focused on the Indian national cricket team.
Cultaholic Wrestling
Cultaholic Wrestling
A daily news and discussion show from a team of British wrestling journalists known for its blend of candid reporting, community in-jokes, and humor.
Always Irish
Always Irish
A passionate, fan-driven YouTube show covering Notre Dame football recruiting and news with a raw, unfiltered perspective from host John Kennedy.
Pitch Side
Pitch Side
A group of British YouTubers deliver daily, high-energy football commentary through heated debates, live match watchalongs, and game segments.
TMPT of Wrestling Interviews, Shoots, and Podcasts
Hulk Hogan
A veteran wrestling historian gets pro wrestlers to share the unfiltered, behind-the-scenes stories of their careers, focusing on controversies and correcting rumors.
Easy British English
Easy British English
A British-German couple teaches conversational English by interviewing people on UK streets and hosting a podcast about British life and language.
Open For Business: a Big 12 Podcast w/ John Kurtz
A solo-hosted podcast covering the Big 12's business, politics, and on-field action with a pro-conference, analytical perspective.