Beyond The Science Podcast
Hosted by Beyond The Science
Three behavior analysts explore the future of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA), from AI ethics to the personal stories behind the science.
This is a panel interview show where three ABA professionals discuss the evolving landscape of their field with expert guests. They blend high-level technical and ethical discussions about topics like AI's role in behavior analysis with a distinctly personal and relational warmth. While focused on professional practice, the hosts also create space for human-interest stories, such as a Mother's Day special featuring their own moms.
“The show's three-host panel, all of whom are Black men and leaders in the ABA community, offers a unique, multi-faceted interview style. They skillfully blend deep technical and ethical discussions with a personal, relational warmth that stands out in the professional podcast space.”
Who hosts this show
Hosted by Jeron Trotman, Joseph Adams, and Darius Cooper, Beyond The Science is a podcast that delves into the world of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA). The trio explores fresh perspectives within the field, often focusing on the intersection of technology, ethics, and clinical practice. The show is presented by Black Men in Behavior Analysis (BMBA), an organization founded by Jeron Trotman to support and empower Black men in the field.
Credentials & credits
- Jeron Trotman, MS, BCBA, IBA
- Joseph Adams, LPC, NCC, CAADC
- Darius Cooper, PhD, LPC, LCMHC
- Jeron Trotman: Founder & President of Black Men in Behavior Analysis (BMBA)
- Joseph Adams: Founder of Resilience Factor Counseling and Education, LLC
- Darius Cooper: Approved Clinical Supervisor (ACS)
Other ventures
- Black Men in Behavior Analysis (BMBA)
- Resilience Factor Counseling and Education, LLC
- ABAVerzus Block Party
What kind of podcast
- Country
- United States
- Region
- usa
When new episodes drop
- 01
- 02
- 0330,000+ ABA articles. Unlimited questions. 🤯 #ABA #BCBA #AI #StudyTipsJun 3, 2026 · 2 min
- 04
- 05Will AI become an ethical necessity in ABA? 🤯 #ABA #AI #BCBA #Autism #PodcastMay 30, 2026 · 2 min
- 06The AI Revolution Every Behavior Analyst Must UnderstandMay 28, 2026 · 46 min
- 07What Our Mothers Never Told Us | Mother’s Day SpecialMay 12, 2026 · 54 min
- 08AI’s Rapid Rise in ABA: Are We Ready for It?Mar 11, 2026 · 55 min
Notable episodes
- 01What Our Mothers Never Told Us | Mother’s Day Special
A rare, personal episode where the hosts interview their own mothers about their upbringing, sacrifices, and the challenges of raising Black sons.
- 02The AI Revolution Every Behavior Analyst Must Understand
A follow-up with returning guest Dr. Adam Ventura that pushes into the provocative territory of whether it will become unethical *not* to use AI in clinical practice.
- 03AI’s Rapid Rise in ABA: Are We Ready for It?
A foundational discussion on the state of AI in ABA, where guest Dr. Adam Ventura calls on the BACB to officially define certificants as human beings.
What you'll be asked on this show
Interviews typically open with a warm, personal check-in, asking guests what's new in their lives before transitioning to the main topic. The three hosts operate as a collaborative team; one might lead a line of questioning while the others jump in with follow-ups from different angles, such as business strategy versus clinical application. They probe by asking for forward-looking predictions ("Can you give us a glimpse of what the field might look like in 2032?") and by inviting guests to expand on provocative statements ("Can you elaborate on why it might become unethical *not* to use AI?"). The dynamic is supportive and inquisitive rather than confrontational, aimed at collective exploration.
A three-host panel interview with a conversational, friendly dynamic. Jeron Trotman, Joseph Adams, and Darius Cooper take turns asking questions, often building on each other's points. They establish strong rapport with guests by starting with personal check-ins before diving into professional topics and referencing past conversations.
Questions Beyond The Science keeps coming back to
12 cataloguedIf you're going on this show as a guest, expect some version of each of these. Each note explains when Beyond The Science reaches for it.
personal
4- Q.01
“How have you been and what's new in your life since you were last on?”
This is their standard opening for returning guests, used to re-establish rapport before diving into professional topics.
- Q.02
“What is your favorite tool in your own toolbox right now and why?”
Asked to get a guest's personal insight and passion regarding their own work or products.
- Q.03
“When you're not in dad or business mode, what do you do to decompress?”
A personal question to understand the guest's life outside of their professional identity.
- Q.04
“What's one of the hardest parts of being a mom that people don't talk about?”
Used in personal episodes to surface unspoken challenges and create a more intimate conversation.
origin
1- Q.01
“For new listeners, can you give us the cliff notes on what your company is trying to solve?”
Used after initial pleasantries to get a concise overview of a guest's main project or company.
industry
1- Q.01
“Realistically, where are we with AI in ABA—what's the hype versus the reality?”
The hosts ask this to ground the conversation and cut through industry buzzwords.
future
2- Q.01
“Can you give us a glimpse of what the field might look like in 2032 with AI?”
A forward-looking question to elicit expert predictions on the future of the ABA industry.
- Q.02
“Can you envision a world where AI agents become members of our treatment teams?”
This question explores the future, practical integration of technology into clinical practice.
controversy
2- Q.01
“Can you elaborate on why it might become unethical *not* to use AI in the future?”
The hosts use this to have a guest expand on a provocative or counter-intuitive statement they've made.
- Q.02
“Do you feel the field is moving too fast with AI adoption?”
A direct question used to gauge an expert's opinion on the pace of technological change and its risks.
process
1- Q.01
“How do you decide when to stop adding features and transition to sales and marketing?”
This question reveals the hosts' interest in the practical business strategy behind a guest's product.
relationships
1- Q.01
“What's one thing you're super proud of us for that you brag about?”
A question asked by the hosts to their own mothers, reversing the interview dynamic to understand their impact.
Signature segments
- · Three-host panel interviews
- · Personal check-in openings
- · Focus on AI in ABA
- · Annual Mother's Day Special
Topics covered repeatedly
Who gets booked here
The show primarily books experts and entrepreneurs pushing the boundaries of Applied Behavior Analysis, especially in technology and AI. They also feature personal, story-driven episodes, such as interviewing their own family members, to explore the human side of the profession.
- Dr. Adam Venturaon The AI Revolution Every Behavior Analyst Must Understand
- Wanda Trotmanon What Our Mothers Never Told Us | Mother’s Day Special
- Keleta Foremanon What Our Mothers Never Told Us | Mother’s Day Special
- Corrin Adamson What Our Mothers Never Told Us | Mother’s Day Special
Where to find this show
Audience & reach
The podcast is presented by BMBA (Black Men in Behavior Analysis) and has featured a guest's company, Intraverbal.ai, as a sponsor. This suggests a sponsorship model focused on highly relevant organizations and products within the ABA community.
Subscriber and view counts are pulled live from YouTube and re-verified on a 30-day cycle. Listener estimates for the RSS feed aren't published here unless they're host-verified.
Pitch Beyond The Science
People also ask
- Who are the hosts?
- The hosts are Jeron Trotman (MS, BCBA), Joseph Adams (LPC, NCC), and Darius Cooper (PhD, LPC). All are professionals in the fields of behavior analysis and counseling.
- What is the podcast's main topic?
- The podcast focuses on Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA), exploring new perspectives, untold stories, and the impact of technology like AI on the field.
- What is BMBA?
- BMBA stands for Black Men in Behavior Analysis, an organization founded by host Jeron Trotman. Its mission is to empower, support, and amplify the voices of Black men in the field of ABA.
- What is the show's format?
- It is a weekly panel interview show where the three hosts have a conversational discussion with a guest.
- Where can I listen to the podcast?
- The podcast is available on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, and other major podcast platforms.
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- [01]Black Men In Behavior Analysis (BMBA) Official Websitebmbanetwork.org
- [02]Jeron Trotman, BCBA - Golden Steps ABAgoldenstepsaba.com
- [03]Jeron Trotman - CentralReachcentralreach.com
- [04]Joseph Adams | Therapist - Psych Hubpsychhub.com
- [05]Darius Cooper | Walden Universitywaldenu.edu
- [06]Beyond The Science Podcast - Apple Podcastspodcasts.apple.com
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